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LINK The Rapid Decline Of The Natural World Is A Crisis Even Bigger Than Climate Change | HuffPost

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The elephant in the room: too many people.


Driving a thousand miles without having to clean the windshield is getting my attention

btroje Level 9 Mar 15, 2019

More news that many will bury their heads deep in the sand and ignore. The religious will say it's because we are going against god's laws and the big penis is punishing us. This rhetoric will only exacerbate the problems. I have joined NPG but doubt it will do any good. We can't even cut down our consumption of meat to help alleviate the problems and never mind the hard things. The population is growing some 86 million net a year (1 US every 3 years) and we never hear about that as economists say we need continued growth. The population problem comes from all sources. I really feel sorry for the young people (40,000 + demonstrated in Amsterdam in protest about the inaction on Climate Change. This came out 5 years ago and I presented it during a filming of some environmental from a local transitions group. They denied it, of course.


Well... Scientists have made another study...
Which politician is interested in what scientists have to say?

A senior European politician once said "We all know what has to be done, but we do not know how to get reelected after we have done the right thing".

French President Macron raised the tax on carbon fuels a little bit last octobre, and this triggered the "yellow vest" movement that has been rocking the French boat since then

Matias Level 7 Mar 15, 2019

Plastics, old cars, land fills, .....

Petter Level 8 Mar 15, 2019

Our grandchildren will live in the hell that my generation has created. Very saddened to read this.


Well, that was depressing.


That I will have to agree wirh completely. We consume a big chunk of good resources only because it's easier and/or cheaper than smart planning, recycle, etc. The culture of throw it away and buy a new one keeps creating an enormous amount of waste that will caught up with us faster than we think. At least, waste reduction, proper disposal and recycle is something we could control much better.

IamNobody Level 8 Mar 15, 2019

The US is probably the worst. Many European and Scandinavian countries already have good programs, policies and laws in place to protect the environment.

@BeeHappy The US economy model stimulates production at all costs. There's good and bad on everything in life. Excesive production and open market gives consumers choices but the environment cost may be too high in the not too far future


Link is good. Have to say, I hadn't seen, and don't quite see why, this is separate from climate change - many of the points made are understood widely to be part and parcel of the same thing. Perhaps the authors think more reaction can be gained from having separate issues, I'd have guessed the opposite.

Allamanda Level 7 Mar 15, 2019

I don't know what article says, but I can only guess that with atomic decay something may take a long time for decline to effect the entirety of the elements. I understand lead is half life of uranium but what is half life of lead? Would we expect someday that all of the bigger elements are decayed into the little elements and there be less possibility or variety of chemical reactions fir compounds and such?

Antifred Level 7 Mar 15, 2019

Only the unstable, radioactive elements have half lives. Lead is not normally radioactive.
Very light elements release energy when fused together into heavier elements. Very heavy elements release energy when broken down into lighter ones. The element that cannot release energy in either direction is iron.

I think your comment posted on the wrong page anyway.


the link ain't working man.

hankster Level 9 Mar 15, 2019

Thanks. I'll check it out.

Worked when I tried it.

@tnorman1236 not here. i probably broke it.

@hankster I don't know what to tell you...

@tnorman1236 no worries.

@hankster yes it was you

@btroje sure, blame it on the guilty guy.

@hankster you know it

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