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Did a lot of moving growing up (not an army brat, an executive brat). I spent 10 years in Europe 1959/68. I still speak fluent French. It also gave me a chance to grow up without much church influence. Mom was devout, but not enough to go to a French church. Thankfully, by the time we got to Switzerland, where they had an American church, I was too scepital to be sucked in. Dad was kind of agnostic anyway, so if he skipped church, my sister and I usually didn’t have to go either.

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TRUMP's RALLY IN THE ROSE GARDEN IS FREE ADVERTISING FOR A DESPERATE TRUMP!!!!!!!! diSGUSTING!!!!!!...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 16, 2020:
He has gotten free campaigning time since he first came down the escalator. Simply by being obnoxious and evil, the media can’t stop themselves from covering him. It is the saddest reality show on TV, and most of them are pretty sad to start with.
BREAKING NEWS MSNBC: The Supreme Court rules that the LGBTQ Community is protected in employment ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 15, 2020:
Bet this is frosting some Evangelical ass this morning! Trump will have some ‘splaining to do today.
Forty five years ago when I finally awoke from my Christian illusions I never dreamed I would ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 14, 2020:
One of the biggest issues I see, time and time again, is the almost eerie fifty-fifty split on almost everything in the US population. From local elections to president. Be it abortion or legalized marijuana medical insurance or labor rights. The numbers are seldom more the than ten points apart either way. This has the net effect that compromise is almost impossible on any major issues once a person is elected, because any sign of waiver is going to turn THEIR voters against them, or at least not incentivize them to show up to vote next time. At the very least, it will encourage a candidate of their own Party to run against them as the true supporter of the Party line. So there is positivily no incentive to address the 49% of voters from the other Party, who are not going to vote for you anyway. Thanks to gerrymandering and a well financed, organized and long term campaign, the Republicans have managed to wrest control of almost the entire Federal government away from Democrats. But remember, they are there in almost every election by a slim margin. If Democrats show up to vote en mass in November, I believe we have the numbers on our side. Which is why I fear the Trumplicans will do every thing in their power to derail the election. And if they lose, I would not be surprised to see violence on an grand scale break out (maybe even if Trump holds on to his office, since they will feel empowered). Sadly, this is just human history repeating itself. At some point, even the most advanced civilizations explode and disappear. Maybe our time has run out and we will be replaced by another Chinese empire, they were at one time far more advanced than the Europeans. I have young grandsons, so I certainly hope that my forecast is premature and we settle down to a new and better post Trump/Trumplican society. I kind of hate to sound like my Dad during the entire Obama presidency (he was a staunch Republican), but the current conditions around the country do not look promising on many fronts.
Time to do the laundry? Is this you?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 12, 2020:
This is a daily event! 🤣
[deadstate.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 12, 2020:
That will just give him one more excuse to have the election canceled and his Supreme Court will back him up.
[msnbc.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 12, 2020:
Uhhhh, yeah. That’s why they are called “Trump supporters!”
What are your 3 favorites? You can only pick 3!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!
Barnie2years comments on Jun 10, 2020:
E.T., Flashdance, Caddyshack.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 9, 2020:
And they almost sounded sincere, right?
[propublica.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 9, 2020:
I'm sure in this day and age they spy on everyone who expresses an opinion. In Hoover's time maintaining files on people was a burdensome business involving tons of paper. Now it's a blip on a huge server. If you are a journalist or a busy social media person, I am sure one of the protective services has a file on you in a computer somewhere.
[democracynow.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 9, 2020:
No doubt!
[msnbc.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 9, 2020:
Him and Barr constantly using the Antifa word is just to draw attention away from the Nazi/white supremacy groups that are working to cause issues with peaceful protests. This is what dictators do. Trump is following Hitler’s 1930’s game plan pretty well. Mein Kampf Must have been one of the few books he ever read.
[rt.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 9, 2020:
I would encourage my dog to pee on it! 😂
[youtube.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
Trump is hoping the second wave gets going after the November election. Either the next president will have to deal with it, or since he won’t have to worry about another term, he can just say fuck it and let them die!
Stolen from my friend on Facebook Blaming all cops for the thuggish and murderous behavior of a ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
I have made this argument on here before.
[cnn.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
Just so they don’t name it after Trump! 🤣
[imgur.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
🤬
Trump Forgets Words to "God Bless America" WTF!!!!!
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
Doesn’t matter, it’s not our damn National Anthem anyway (which does not mention god at all). I hate when they play this at events! Trump can have it.
Someone knows how to multi-task....
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
Magic blessed toothbrush! Guaranteed to prevent most cavities! Only $125 from your favorite mega church pastor’s gift shop! 🤣🤣🤣
I just put the icing on the cake for my day from h.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 8, 2020:
Or Lymes disease. Good to be friends with neighbors. Hopefully you got the tick out fast enough.
A little more jeebus humour...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 7, 2020:
Ha, I like the last one!
It's true....😂
Barnie2years comments on Jun 7, 2020:
I always preferred drawing breasts or vulva! 😄
One more! If this ain't the truth! P.s., I love this guy!
Barnie2years comments on Jun 7, 2020:
And we are not even half way through. With the worst yet to come: dealing with 4 months of stupid Trump campaign ads, spikes in Covid cases, hurricanes season, escalating Right Wing militia violence encouraged by Trump, actually having an election, and getting Trump out of the White House once he loses and before he can start WW III or a Civil War.
Who is hosting?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 7, 2020:
Hope they publish the location! If you’re there I’ll show up! 😁
[theintercept.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 7, 2020:
If they didn’t find it before, they sure are not going to do anything under aG Barr.
Could these little birds be any cuter?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 5, 2020:
Fat little buggers! ❤️
[news.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 5, 2020:
Only if they follow the rules. I’m guessing putting all your weight on a prone person’s neck for eight minutes was not part of training either.
So - for those of you, like myself, who wouldn't mind finding a partner, it seems yet more ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 5, 2020:
I have basically given up. Porn for sex, dog for company and an ex-wife to remind me from time to time why I am not married! 🤣 We get along as friends and dog sitters, as long as we don’t have to spend too much time together.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
We’ll see.
[motherjones.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
He needs it for his ugly photo ops. I’ll be surprised if at some point he doesn’t have himself coming down from a cross of some kind with holes painted on his hands. It’s what con men do.
[friendlyatheist.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
Ha, because no Jesus lover ever owned a slave, rightt? What an idiotic moron!
[vice.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
I have told people online: the vast majority of protests are peaceful and without major incident. But they don’t make headlines or “Breaking News” standards. Explosions, burning buildings and smoke filled streets full of running looters get much more viewer interest. Media is a whore, looking for what brings in the eyes and money. And those watching Fox News, they may never see a peaceful protest on the news. That doesn’t mean they are not the rule rather than the exception.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
Only if they make it so Trump is unable to get out. It would be worth losing a historical building.
My daughter and I were having a conversation earlier.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
Hillary spent all her time trying to defend herself from GOP/Trump smear rather than promoting her own agenda. They will do it again to Biden. Our only true defense is an offense, used in every war, which this will be. Drown Trump in every bit of his own slime, since he is very kind at providing it himself. Quote his lies so often that he loses track of which one he said last. But keep Biden on message and clean. Whatever Trump/GOP accusé Biden of doing, find out when and where Trump did it, because he surely did.
[bet.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
I have been saying this all along. There are instigators and well organized gangs working the demonstrations under the cover of peaceful protests. They get what they want and let others take the blame and show up on the news video. I have seen that they have caught a few. Hopefully they can identify others, though Trump and AG Barr have no real interest in finding them since they are busy blaming leftist groups and Antifa with no real evidence. While there is evidence of Boogaloo and other Right Wing, White separatists groups being present.
[alternet.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 4, 2020:
We are talking about a Confederate state here. They never accepted the loss of the war and to keep them in the Union, they were left to continue slavery, just couldn’t call it that anymore.
Will be interesting to see where they end up since North Carolina was the only state that bid on it ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 3, 2020:
Florida's governor has been sucking up to Trump big time, and his performance during the Covid pandemic has shown he has little regard for the lives of the citizens of his state. So why not a convention, they love to hand Republicans the voters they need to win anyway.
We are the same animal/human being. Racism is stupid.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 3, 2020:
Posted this on Facebook a couple of days ago.
[alternet.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Trump wants to test what he can do with the military in November when he tries to shut down the elections.
BREAKING NEWS MSNBC; press conference of independently hired forensic specialists who autopsied ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
County coroners work for the county and with the police. He had incentive to fudge the results. He/she should also now be investigated.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
I’d bet as many of the instIgators are Right Wing Militia as what there are Antifasciste.
Shooting himself in the foot!!!
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Maybe he could get one of his boys to help him out. I’m sure they haven’t killed a wild ass Orange Buffoon for their collection yet!
[nbcnews.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Everything he says is wrong and designed to turn our country into a wasteland, from viruses to white supremacists, military action against civilians and MAGA baiting. He won’t be satisfied until he sees blood in the streets.
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - [youtube.com]
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
I could binge watch John Oliver daily. So insightful and well researched, but sprinkled with comedy that makes it a little easier to digest! 🤣
@GeorgeRocheleau here is the 2nd one.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 1, 2020:
They go great with your beautiful blue eyes!
[theweek.
Barnie2years comments on May 31, 2020:
It certainly doesn’t reduce the risk.
[alternet.
Barnie2years comments on May 31, 2020:
Trump has no idea how to offer condolences, that requires empathy. Something Trump was born without.
[nbcnews.
Barnie2years comments on May 31, 2020:
Because Trumplicans thrive on chaos! It helps them instill fear in their true believers and allows them to take action against minorities that would not be condoned against peaceful protests. This is exactly what they want and probably organized by the far Right Wing.
[buzzfeednews.
Barnie2years comments on May 31, 2020:
Anyone who doesn’t think the Right and the Trumplicans want to see this escalated and more violence against the Black community is living in a dream world. Just as in the ‘60s CIA and FBI agents infiltrated the Peace and Civil Rights movements, today White Separatists and anarchist groups are pushing these protests to creat violence and drown out their message. News media and police need to put more effort into finding the catalysts for the violence rather than the organizers of the protest itself.
White supremacy is a system of structural and societal racism which privileges white people over ...
Barnie2years comments on May 31, 2020:
In the history and evolution of Humanity, the nastiest tribes always win. This is not an excuse for racism, just pointing out a historic reality. Large civilizations in the recent past, such as the Greek and Roman were in their origin fierce warrior clans, conquering all and ruthless. But they developed civilized infrastructure and became comfortable. Then they were pushed out by the Germanic hoards and civilization took ten steps back. If you follow human history, the cycle repeats itself over and over. Perhaps at some point the non Caucasien portion of the world will rise up and take over. It has happened before, Genghis Khan and his Mongolien army took over a huge swath of the world. The Chinese Empire was extensive and powerful. History and power are never static.
IMO, I’m afraid the rioters are playing right into the hands of the POS in the W H.
Barnie2years comments on May 30, 2020:
This is exactly what he wanted. Our best hope is a large segment of the military is non white at the point and may not be as responsive to attacking their own people as Dear Leader hopes.
[youtube.com] Rich Mitch -Courtesy of the Lincoln Project. -He must love this!!!!!
Barnie2years comments on May 29, 2020:
Getting rid of him is just as important as getting Trump out of the White House.
Thoughts from a Minneapolis resident [wordology.tech]
Barnie2years comments on May 29, 2020:
This is a well orchestrated move by the Right Wing militia to instigate violence and have it blamed on the African American protesters. Trump will use it as an excuse to send in military and escalate the violence to draw attention away from his failing presidency. We are in for a long, hot and difficult summer I fear.
[alternet.
Barnie2years comments on May 28, 2020:
Of course they are!
Minneapolis mayor calls for arrest of police officer who knelt on George Floyd′s neck | News | DW ...
Barnie2years comments on May 28, 2020:
Arresting and actually getting them convicted are not synonymous. Look what happened in Baltimore a couple of years ago. They all walked.
Zuckerberg condemns Twitter for fact-checking Trump.
Barnie2years comments on May 28, 2020:
Zuckerberg is just trying to get Trump to switch social media platforms. Lots of money flows where Trump 💩’s.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on May 26, 2020:
She was strangling the poor dog while she was flipping out at the guy. Good thing she took the dog back to the shelter too.
20 years ago today, I was in Alaska.
Barnie2years comments on May 26, 2020:
Wall walkers!
Does Trump have PSP Frontotemproal Dementia? I am sure that he does.
Barnie2years comments on May 25, 2020:
Pretty much describes Trump perfectly. Add to that the fact that he was an asshole to start with and it gets really scary having him in the worlds most powerful government position.
[aol.
Barnie2years comments on May 25, 2020:
It would be OK, but they will take it back to their states and start the whole pandemic over again. What would be really nice is if the Orange Buffoon bully get’s his way and the smarter people just don’t show up! The whole thing is just symbolic ego boost for him anyway since they know who their candidate is.
I'm being inundated with posts where people want to impose restrictions on Congress with a ...
Barnie2years comments on May 24, 2020:
Under current political conditions opening the Constitution would totally lead to the end of the American democratic dream as we know it. You’re right, the Conservative Wealth would move heaven and earth (just an expression, don’t panic) to give themselves more power and reduce the power of the people. We need a fair court to make evenhanded decisions, a Congress that cares more about the future of the country than their wallet and a president instead of a wannabe king.
Former CEO Gets 210 Days In Jail For Possessing Over 13,000 Child Porn Images
Barnie2years comments on May 23, 2020:
That’s one day in jail for every 62 abused children. How sad for them.
Spread this one far and wide,
Barnie2years comments on May 22, 2020:
He’s the greatest at killing businesses, why not people?
My time on Facebook has not been for naught .. 😆
Barnie2years comments on May 22, 2020:
I love Facebook!
Well it looks like I got into the poison ivy again.
Barnie2years comments on May 22, 2020:
You’re building a cabin? Are you going Native and hiding in the woods? 😃
[friendlyatheist.
Barnie2years comments on May 21, 2020:
I think some of our counties are probably fudging their number, but overall the state is trying to keep them honest.
[alternet.
Barnie2years comments on May 21, 2020:
Only 80 to 95%, how horrible is that for a supposed so called news channel.
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Barnie2years comments on May 21, 2020:
He just goes to stare at the women in their workout gear, doesn’t really exercise himself.
Biden wins Oregon's democratic primary. Isn't this Bernie territory?
Barnie2years comments on May 21, 2020:
I voted write in for Pete Buttigieg in the PA primary. Straight ticket Democrat in November! Sending money to AOC and Valerie Plame for now. Will contribute more when it gets closer to Election Day and to other candidates. Putting that stimulus check Trump sent me to good use! 🤣🤣
I hope there's a window the fireman or ambulance driver can break in case of an emergency.
Barnie2years comments on May 20, 2020:
This would keep you from leaving home if you were drunk or high! 🤣 You’d never be able to get the chain out to open the door!
I live on a world, and try to live in a world, with a bunch of fucking idiots.
Barnie2years comments on May 19, 2020:
You’re a slow learner! 😂 When I was training new drivers at work (bus driver) and a passenger would get on and do something stupid, I would tell them how I handled this situation for the 42 years I worked there. I just figure everyone is stupid, each in our own way. If you accept that fact, then little a person can do will surprise you! Instead of being upset about the stupid people that annoy you, you learn to appreciate those who overcome their own stupidity and be decent human beings. I always told my trainees that I don’t exclude myself from this view. I was married three times, so I am obviously stupid, for sure. 😄
[nationalmemo.
Barnie2years comments on May 19, 2020:
Killing children has no affect on his mind or those who worship him.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on May 19, 2020:
Glad Mom doesn’t live down there by herself anymore.
[theguardian.
Barnie2years comments on May 19, 2020:
That was a given and any one with any sense already knew it was going to happen. Sorry, I just hope they get really sick! I refuse to feel pity for voluntary stupidity.
[rawstory.
Barnie2years comments on May 19, 2020:
Money runs the world. They made her an offer she felt was worth selling her dignity for. That decision took a heavy on her mind when her time was running out I guess.
[vice.com] Nazi Tactics?
Barnie2years comments on May 19, 2020:
$20 mil? That’s a drop in the bucket for them. Wait until they get serious and Trump really looks like he may lose.
The new dog! She reminds me of Anubis, the Egyptian god.....those ears!
Barnie2years comments on May 18, 2020:
Can’t see the picture! If you go to edit, you should be able to add it to the post.
[msnbc.
Barnie2years comments on May 18, 2020:
How come if the reason for having Inspector Generals is to prevent fraud and overt overstepping of authority, the person they are designed to oversee has the ability to get rid of them? What for kind of fucked up system of oversight is that? Leave it to Trump to find every flaw in our system of government that can be exploited to allow him and his gang of criminals unfettered access to a world power.
Is it still a lie if you don't know it isn't true?
Barnie2years comments on May 18, 2020:
As a heavy Facebook sharer, I have from time to time posted memes which were called out (backed with factual, information and resources) as untrue. When this happens, I post an apology, often the correction and after a period of time delete the original post. We all make mistakes and in the speed of life online post memes and others opinions without due process. Unlike Trump, we should not pass blame on to others for our oversight, but correct the mistake as publicly as feasible and Be more cautious in the future to research before sharing. But in agreement with others on here, to actually be termed a lie I think requires knowingly stating an obvious falsehood and defending that in the face of substantial proof to the contrary. Thus why my terminology for this action is now being referred to as a “TRUMPISM”.
Have any of you got a rebate or check from your auto insurance company yet? [usatoday.com]
Barnie2years comments on May 17, 2020:
Mom’s company (Allstate) said they are sending her a check for a little less than $19.
[alternet.org] Is Mar a Lago a private club or a residence?
Barnie2years comments on May 17, 2020:
What else is new? Laws don’t apply to him, he’s the King! Can vote from anywhere, any time he wants.
[huffpost.
Barnie2years comments on May 17, 2020:
Of course he does! And he kisses Trump’s big ass every time he can get near it. What more qualifications does a person need to work for the great manipulator?
[nytimes.
Barnie2years comments on May 17, 2020:
Not even in the same stratosphere! Obama is a smart, compassionate, well educated man of honor. Trump is an orange toad in a suit who has no clue what empathy and intellect is.
Coronavirus could push Social Security to insolvency before 2030 - POLITICO
Barnie2years comments on May 17, 2020:
With Trump constantly trying to come up with a way to stop even more funds (payroll taxes) coming into the program and a Senate majority that would love nothing better than to see it disappear (their retirement paid by us will not suffer), I feel sorry for those nearing retirement in the next twenty years or so. Defined benefit pension plans have all but disappeared, if financial recovery drags on, 401k’s will be hard pressed to make up loses. Hoping you stay healthy enough to work until you’re 80 or living in death camps does not sound at all appealing.
Priceless! LMAO. 💜💜💜 [youtu.be]
Barnie2years comments on May 17, 2020:
Feels so good! 😄
PRAYER In your own opinion, why do you think so many christians believe in the power of prayer?
Barnie2years comments on May 16, 2020:
I always tell those who push the issue; prayer and flipping a coin are about equal in their ability to change the final outcome. I often say “best wishes” which is simply the secular way of saying “I’ll pray for you” and again has just as much bearing on results. But it makes believers feel they have some special control over things they don’t, so I suppose it gives them comfort. I take comfort in knowing that I don’t have control and just need to accept life as it comes, do what I can to affect the outcome and deal with the result.
[motherjones.
Barnie2years comments on May 16, 2020:
His fan club would never turn against him, even if they had him in pictures eating human body parts!
[nymag.com] Trump says that he didn't restock PPE blaming impeachment and Russia. WTF!!!!!!
Barnie2years comments on May 15, 2020:
The King of denial and blame he is.
[alternet.org] Nazi Tactics Anyone?
Barnie2years comments on May 15, 2020:
I’ll be happy if any of us get to vote! I don’t trust Trump any further than he can walk without telling a lie.
[youtube.com] Jimmy Kimmel interviews Bill Murray in a bathtub.
Barnie2years comments on May 15, 2020:
That was funny!
Trump is following in Herbert Hoover's Footsteps [nytimes.com]
Barnie2years comments on May 15, 2020:
History repeats itself and we learn nothing. 😢
I don't think I'm brave enough to wear this but I do love what it says.
Barnie2years comments on May 15, 2020:
I like this one better! 🤣
[aol.
Barnie2years comments on May 15, 2020:
Because Trump, the “stable genius” has a feeling in his little pea sized brain that all of this will just go away on its own. What he is really hoping is that we will be in the middle of a major die off in November that he can use as an excuse to block elections.
[aol.
Barnie2years comments on May 14, 2020:
Only if he gets convicted of insider trading and he takes a couple Trump supporters that did the same thing with him. And if he can, Trump will pardon him faster than the ink can dry on the arrest form.
He was just after my bum.
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
There’s a headline you don’t see very often! 😄 Just reading a book that suggests if humans disappeared off the earth, baboons have the closest brain capacity to ours and might be the ones to take our place.
[express.
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
With little doubt. At what point do we have to accept a higher death toll To avoid a complete economic collapse. China and Korea are dealing with new cases after having all but stopped it at one point. And thanks to Trump and the American “fuck you, I am a free to do whatever I want!” attitude, even states with lockdowns are only partially successful. If there is any positive, the Red States are the most likely to lift restrictions faster and this virus will take its toll on the Trumplican base in a big way. At least they will die proudly wearing their MAGA hats and upholding Trump’s promise to make us number one at something, even if it is killing themselves.
I’ve been involved in a political discussion on Facebook this morning, much of it caused by a ...
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
I also found the Encyclopedia Brittanica description interesting. This part of a long article especially: Within weeks, Tea Party chapters began to appear around the United States, using social media sites such as Facebook to coordinate protest events. They were spurred on by conservative pundits, particularly by Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck. The generally libertarian character of the movement drew disaffected Republicans to the Tea Party banner, and its antigovernment tone resonated with members of the paramilitary militia movement. Obama himself served as a powerful recruiting tool, as the Tea Party ranks were swelled by “Birthers”—individuals who claimed that Obama had been born outside the United States and was thus not eligible to serve as president (despite a statement by the director of the Hawaii State Department of Health attesting that she had seen Obama’s birth certificate and could confirm that he had been born in the state)—as well as by those who considered Obama a socialist and those who believed that Obama, who frequently discussed his Christianity publicly, was secretly a Muslim.
[cnn.
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
This is the entire far right of the Republican Party. It started with Nixon “I am not a crook!” and has gone straight downhill ever since.
[buzzfeednews.
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
At least Trump just sent ones that didn’t work to California, not hidden time bombs.
[huffpost.
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
There is a growing movement of honest Republicans that still believe in Constitutional law, fighting to out Trump to save the country. You don’t hear much about them in the media (any media) because they are too preoccupied with Trump’s shenanigans. The crazier Trump gets, hopefully their numbers wii grow enough to make a difference in November.
[huffpost.
Barnie2years comments on May 13, 2020:
What were you expecting? Empathy?

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