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Comes from a family with a history of working in horticulture, grew up running wild in the country and hated school. I have a life interest in the natural world a passion for gardening and also enjoy walking, travel, music, natural history and helping with the running of several gardening and natural history groups. I have been lucky enough to be asked to write a number of articles for books and magazines and also find employment as a public speaker. I continue to run the family business, though due to bereavements I am now left running it alone.

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You'd think this was a religious website.
Fernapple comments on Sep 23, 2020:
No I think that you do a very good job, and that most of the members find everything you share very interesting. I certainly enjoy your cooking, crafts and hiking posts, dating, well maybe not so much, but the site would be far less without you. You have to remember however that the site has a turn over in its membership, and that therefore there are always lots of new members, most of whom have issues that they need to address, often painful ones, so there are bound to be some repeating posts. And it is only fair that the long stay members should tolerate and even help with that if they can, and are willing. Personally I am only too pleased to offer a helping hand when I can, but there are plenty of us to do that, so there is no heavy moral obligation on anyone to to join in if they find it boring.
What did Voltaire mean with his gardening advice?
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
No I do not agree. Voltaire's garden was not about a self absorbed, turn your back on the world, egocentric search for personal happiness at all. As the narrator implies. You have to remember that the main acts of the Turk and his family in the book, were those of hospitality, and improving with kindness the lives of three strangers. What Voltaire is really saying, is that the world would be a far better place, if everyone tried, even just a little, to make a positive contribution, that is our humane duty. Which contribution they could be sure was positive, however small, and that they could do well, rather than grand schemes which they could never truly control, and which are bound to fall at the the hurdle of unforeseen consequences. Nor is it an anti optimistic statement, quite the contrary it is a respectful and admiring statement about the value of many small contributions. ( It was also specifically addressing a then fashionable philosophy, that this world though sometimes horrible was the best that could be made, especially as a testing place for sinful souls of course. But that is historical and by the by.)
If you think wearing a mask doesn’t help, still wear it as you’re told & shut up about it.
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
Looking across the ocean from Europe, people here are jaw dropping amazed, that masks could even be an issue. Yes there are a few lazy selfish a######s here who can't be bothered, but they are seen as just the cheap stupid freaks they are. It is not a political issue, it is just a couple of pieces of paper and some elastic, it is not the government wanting to abolish the freedom of the press, introduce forced national service or take away peoples voting rights. Does anybody think that those same people who protest masks, would be bothered to rouse themselves and go out on the streets about those issues.
Meet the SHIFF ARMS JELLYFISH (Barrel Jellyfish) otherwise known by its scientific name " Rhizostoma...
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
A type of animal life perhaps more ancient than any, and fast become the dominant form in the ocean again, as humans kill everything else.
Unfit...a great video; [youtube.com]
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
Sad.
A perfect example of how old technology can defeat new technology. [bbc.com]
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
Love the photo article about the Fens that is on the same page as well. My homeland.
Was Jesus a Socialist? [youtube.com]
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
The fact that according to the bible Jesus made several dozen ethical statements, some of which are self contradictions, and many of which come from different political/social viewpoints. Is one of the best reasons for thinking, that he was probably a composite figure, assembled from several historical and fictional parts. Certainly though, if the bible is to be taken literally, ( big if, ) his main political stance, was to challenge the idea of established religious authority. ( Except perhaps his own. ) For which the established religious authorities killed him. Therefore logically you can't be a Christian and belong to a church.
Evidence-Based Religion Me: What is God, Dictionary?
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
The meaning of 'religious naturalism' is of course simply that, nature is the equivalent of a god, if there is no personal god.
The Self-Attribution Fallacy [monbiot.com]
Fernapple comments on Sep 22, 2020:
Good article, he is not the first person to say that, nor is it the first study to prove it, but I do not think anybody is bothered about listening.
New job.
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
Take care all the same.
Why do people believe in the devil when it’s obviously a myth?
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
Most countries in the world, including the US have failed education systems. Most schooling is state controlled, and teaching people to be critical, to think clearly, to be sceptical, to evaluate evidence, and to be morally strong, would not leave them vulnerable and undefended against political and commercial exploitation, so there is no incentive to improve education for those who control and fund it. Religion then just jumps on the band-wagon.
Scleropages sanshuiensis: A new species of Asian Arowana from the the Eocene of Guangdong, China.
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
Oh Loaches ! LOL
“Money is the estranged essence of man’s work and man’s existence, and this alien essence ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
Money is how we measure life. Length in feet and inches, volume in pints, power in watts, life in money. We give up so much of our life to earn it, in the hopes that it will improve or extend the remainder to a greater extent. That is why it is so important, and why people get so excited when it is not fairly distributed.
Do you think people who see ghosts are schizophrenic, liars, or truly seeing something, like someone...
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
I think most of the time they are just mistaken. Not a ghost, but when I was a young man out driving in my first car, I thought I saw a UFO. It was a slightly misty night, and down in the valley below the road I was driving on, I saw a round glowing ball of light traveling at speed and jumping over the field boundaries. The effect was totally convincing. The following night I saw it again, but that time I stopped and got out of the car. Then I heard another cars engine, and then I realized that there was another road parallel to mine down in the bottom of the valley, which I had not even been aware of, and all I was seeing was a strange effect that car lights were making on the mist. Had I not bothered to stop, I would probably still to this day be convinced .
What would you never forgive?
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
You can forgive almost any crime, such as rude behavior, greed etc. even if they are ongoing. But dishonesty can only be forgiven when the dishonest reform, because not expecting reform from the dishonest is doing them a disservice. By not asking them to start self improvement. While the other crimes you can forgive failing to improve, because with them failing can be weakness, continued dishonesty is not trying.
Seek daily to fulfill thine - highest - aspirations & dreams - desire & aspire to fully express & ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
Love on brother and - plaster the world - with little lines - little lines - rule, - and you can never - have too many - little lines - . Humans will only - ever achieve their full - potential - through accepting the lines --. And the lines - are all love - and the lines - are all life - and the lines - are forever.
WHO KNEW: TRUMP TYPES WERE LIVING IN LONDON IN 1603.
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
James is not generally seen as smart. His personal habits were so poor, it was said that, you could tell what meals had been served in the palace for the last week, by looking at his shirt front. And that when some native Americans were brought to England and introduced to the King, they were said to have thought a joke was being played on them, and that they had been introduced to a filthy tramp. He never took a bath and developed a red skin rash which extended to his face, while he is said to have made the codpiece go out of fashion, because he had a alarming habit of fiddling with his when agitated, and would also threaten to drop his trousers and show people his back side when angry. He may have been smarter than Trump, but that is setting a very low bar. LOL PS. He was also considered very racist even by the standards of the day, and at first refused to meet the native Americans for that reason. Actually I think he and Trump would have got on well !
Have words and numbers vanished from your posts?
Fernapple comments on Sep 21, 2020:
No, a lot could be to do with the device you are using, to both post and view, the site always seems to work better on some devices especially desk tops than mobile devices. Why not, next time something disappears, message me, and I will look to see if I can see it on my device for you ?
LOL Even He understands.
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Maybe he would like us best. After all, we don't, tell him what to do, complain when he does not do it, claim to speak in his name, or set up a lot of phony characters in his place to fool others, but we do, show proper respect for his natural laws and take the trouble to discover them.
Dear Red States. We decided we're leaving.
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
That's cruel. At least give them Hollywood, then with the preachers and evangelists, they get full control over the twaddle supply, and don't have to depend on imports for their main consumable.
Please raise your hand if you're an atheist AND antitheist.
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Yes will go with that, with just the two small concessions: that I do not believe in absolutes, and do believe in, hate the idea not its victims.
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
A lot of people give all sorts of complex answers to the question. What is the difference between scientific truth and philosophy, and religious ? Including all sorts of things like falsifiable hypotheses, and the experimental method etc. But I think the real bottom line difference, is very simply. That one believes that truth is a given, an absolute and a granted privilege. (For the chosen few.) And the other believes that you only get closer to it, by work care and effort.
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
There are absolutely no absolutes.
The GOP sold their souls.
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Small factual error, he never, "made his fortune" Trump has been bleeding away his inheritance all his life.
Why worry?
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Best not to confuse the amusing and sometimes profitable game of. 'What if.' With worry.
Survival of the Fittest vs. Natural Selection
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Its a common misunderstanding which can not be highlighted enough. It is very important to be accurate, otherwise you make gifts to creationists and the like.
some of natures beauty I needed to share
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Beautiful. I love the lonely bear.
Saturday afternoon walkabout in the rain. LGD, NOLA
Fernapple comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Love the last one, number ten, that says travel and new streets never seen before.
Consider these facts: wildfires, coronavirus, hurricanes, Trump's potential re-election -- is God ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 19, 2020:
Just be patient, earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanic eruptions, will be along soon enough, along with locusts, and crop disease. Nature is in no hurry but will get there soon enough.
Hello all! Thought I'd share this video with you.
Fernapple comments on Sep 19, 2020:
Good post. But I think that you are completely wrong about nobody in the west being interested in Indian food. Bring it on.
I'm a pompous self-involved jackass...
Fernapple comments on Sep 19, 2020:
Then why are you not in church ?
Human foot prints in Saudi Arabia from 120,000 years ago: [arstechnica.com]
Fernapple comments on Sep 19, 2020:
Hard to imagine Arabia as lush and green, or what it would be like to have the freedom of walking with restriction into new lands.
“In truth, there was only one christian and he died on the cross.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
If the story is half true, ( big if ) killed by the religious establishment, for pedaling a liberal message.
"The world of reality has its limits; the world of imagination is boundless.
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Since you can travel your whole life thought the world of reality, and never even come within sight of the limits, then the difference is academic.
Here is a list of who you can kill according to the Bible [reddit.com]
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Misses wearing mixed fabrics.
My son posted this makes me proud
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Well done both.
The insanity of today
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Only if you have no idea what slavery is like, and not enough imagination to get even close to it.
cooler this morning.
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Groan.
4:30 a.m. LGD, NOLA Window shopping after hours
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Yes I love those. Sad now, when we can't get out on the streets any longer, especially socially. But times will change hopefully.
Have you rejected a photo and realized it's good years later?
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Not a problem I really have, people generally only take photos of cute people. I did however manage to find a couple. A few tears ago when having life problems, I put on some weight, thankfully I made and effort and lost it. At least the earlier photo reminds me of how much I lost.
“Appreciation is a wonderful thing.
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
I think that maybe translated from French, and may have been originally intended to mean only the giving of social appreciation. Surely, in the bigger English language sense, appreciation is what brings us all that is good in life, and our ability to do it, the true measure of our capacity for happiness.
Just joined up! Really trying to find the right one for me.
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
Hello welcome and enjoy the site. Thought it has to be said that it is mainly a social media site, the dating part is not its strong point.
If Christianity can be considered a form of slave morality according to Nietzsche, then is atheism ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 18, 2020:
To use the old cliche. Only if not collecting stamps is a hobby.
"You don't even know me..." &Positivevibes
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Oh I know you, well enough.
"You don't even know me..." &Positivevibes
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
I love you too.
"You don't even know me..." &Positivevibes
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Someone once said. Start out by loving everyone, you can always learn to hate someone you once loved, but it is awful hard to love someone you once hated.
First time in 175 years this respected source makes a presidential endoresement.
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Hard to see what else they could do.
"The great merit of the capitalist system, it has been said, is that it succeeds in using the ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
No that is private enterprise, not to be confused with capitalism. Private enterprise means that a stage of civilization was reached, where our natural tendency to compete for resources was best served by trading with others. Therefore our natural tendency to compete was subverted, into competing to provide others with what they most wanted. Capitalism means using money to grow money, and thereby escape the need to trade or do anything useful at all, and/or to achieve a monopoly, both of which in fact suppress private enterprise.
Atheist read the Bible, Christians go to church to have the Bible read to them...
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Some one has to do the cherry picking.
Beautiful landscape
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Looks a bit cold.
[theguardian.com] Doesn't surprise me but FFS, come on!
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Plus at least one quarter million Romani, possibly many more, and at least half million people with disability, a large number of prostitutes, and many others. There is a lot to learn about.
Fear not what is before you, for those that care are behind you.
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Great photo. I love the contrast between the mothers size and powerful shoulders and the tiny cub.
“One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Not only do you get to hear the thoughts of people from the far past, with whom you could never normally speak, but you usually get to hear some of the best minds of their age, sharing their best and most valued thoughts.
I don't know if this counts as art but i overlay different images together and thought they looked ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
Perfectly good and respectable way to make images. I especially like the second one.
Why are hurricanes named after females?
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
No its what you get if you don't take the danger seriously. Well bye-bye Pondartincbendog just in case I don't hear from you again, its been nice a-know-in you.
Playing with my reflection is so fun πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
Super photos, I suspects staged, but brilliantly so.
Question
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
Free hotel rooms. So that I could just step out of my door, and keep on walking and roaming anywhere I wanted without limit.
All I would have to post is I need an Inhofe and a Trump sign for my yard. Can anyone help?
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
In your case. "I love Trump."
Colloquial
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
Same reason humans don't call themselves 'earthlings', if you are in it you can't see it.
I got banned from FB for three days because I said, "Americans are gullible and stupid", referring ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
Ugly, difficult to use, shallow and pretending to be a substitute for the web in order to fill the Zuks imperial dreams, why go there at all.
Keel-billed Toucan is chilling while waiting and find something to eat 😁
Fernapple comments on Sep 16, 2020:
Wonderful photo, and such rich colours.
Anyone getting this: Notifications don't load.
Fernapple comments on Sep 15, 2020:
Yep happening to me too.
Okay, we have religious nutters predicting all the time.
Fernapple comments on Sep 15, 2020:
You certainly ask questions, which is the best gift anyone can give.
“The sweetest and most inoffensive path of life leads through the avenues of science and learning;...
Fernapple comments on Sep 15, 2020:
Everybody in the world had a slave as and ancestor. Everybody in the world also had a slave owner as an ancestor. And nearly everybody in the world comes from a slave owning culture, there being very few hunter gatherer cultures left.
Isn't this Giraffe is so lucky to have a kiss from the gorgeous Lady ☺🧑
Fernapple comments on Sep 15, 2020:
I think the lady is lucky too. I have a bucket list idea, to kiss the noses of as many different animals as I can.
Quakka is always happy ☺
Fernapple comments on Sep 15, 2020:
Sadly endangered, but not critical.
Is anyone here who identifies as an atheist, secular and Buddhist?
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
No for myself, but I think that you will find that there is a secular Buddhist group on here. Buddhism can be regarded by some as a secular philosophy, so it is quite possible.
“The root of all superstition is that men observe when a thing hits, but not when it misses.
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
How very modern for the time.
Notifications busted?
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
Working well now.
“Conrad Heyers, professor of comparative religion at Gustavus Adolphus College in St.
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
That is a straw man argument, of course the anitreligious spend more energy on literalism than "sophisticated theologies", because there is a lot more of that out there, and where it exists it has a more dangerous and dramatic effect. Besides which, there is no difference between literalism and "more sophisticated theologies of creation ". The one is just keeping the sky fairy in its traditional role, as the dispenser of fake authority, and the second is setting tradition and mythology as gods themselves and the dispensers of fake authority. And fake authority is just as attractive to the criminal elements in the world, for misuse, wherever it comes from.
I think the people in this country are sick of being scapegoats for the failings of individuals of ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
Trump regularly blames China and others for most of Americas problems. The classic sign of a dictator, especially an incompetent dictator is. If you can't fix the problem, blame foreigners/other races, which not only redirects the blame, but also gives you an easy target to hit and gain credit for hitting, even if the target nothing whatever to do with the problem.
Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion | ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
And of course, even before the culture of the classical world, many societies, especially those in the hunter gatherer stage of social life, did not have gods, animism and ancestor worship being far more common. Gods are themselves quite a resent development.
Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion | ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
The Vikings had a name for Atheist, and if you have a name for it then at least the idea must exist.
Another day of smoke and more smoke. Has anybody seen the movie, The Fog, or The Mist?
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
Glad you are still joking. Keep safe.
When and how do you reveal past mistakes to new romantic interests?
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
If timing matters, then you don't have the relationship yet. When you have a relationship worth keeping then timing won't matter.
Just when you think that the lunacy can't get any worse: missing mass over Covid 19 is a "grave ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
So you get a bit of pressed bread and a plastic sachet of fake wine, in an envelope through the post. Then you watch the live stream on the screen, and commit your act of symbolic cannibalism when they tell you too. How hard is that ? Oh I am sorry, I forgot, that would involve the priesthood in doing some actual work for their money, or employing someone which would eat into the takings, best forget that idea.
Another one of my heroes.
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
Nice thought. Though technically wrong, since quite a few animals have been found which survived major breakages, in part due to social support.
Notifications busted?
Fernapple comments on Sep 14, 2020:
Mine are not working well, I can see them if I click on them but the number on the bell has gone.
Some more photo fun!
Fernapple comments on Sep 13, 2020:
I love 2 and 6 especially, great atmosphere.
Emergency Packing List. What would you add?
Fernapple comments on Sep 13, 2020:
Driving license, and car papers. Hope you don't need any of it.
Harvard Has Figured Out Why So Many Black People Are In Prison
Fernapple comments on Sep 13, 2020:
Why they never asked me. I could have told them that, in less than one percent of that time, for half the price.
Pope Francis Says Having Sex And Eating Good Food Is 'Simply Divine'
Fernapple comments on Sep 13, 2020:
And of course, when he says perpetuating the species, he means especially the R. C. branch. Can't have too many of them putting their coins in the tray, can we.
So,,,,,this "god" asshole has dropped covid on us, burned up a good chunk of the West Coast, put the...
Fernapple comments on Sep 13, 2020:
Yes he has a plan. He is carefully wiping out all Pondartincbendog's possible friends, so that when he comes after you, you will be quite alone.
“He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything.
Fernapple comments on Sep 13, 2020:
The Dunning-Krugger party, the biggest political grouping in the world.
Debbie Reynolds in 1952 and her daughter Carrie Fisher from the 1980's
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Well they look healthy and happy.
Hello, everyone! I was an active member back in 2017/2018 but had a very bad experience through ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Don't perhaps judge the site by one bad experience. All human life is here, and sometimes humans can be A##h##es. You just have to take the good with the bad, and often the bad move on anyway.
Absolutely perfect
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
I suspect you are. But saying so in public is generally considered sexist.
Here's an unresolved argument. Did Jesus really exist?
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Most likely there were several of him. That is how most myths grow, because people remember stories better than names. So that often two stories, about two different people, get attached to the same name. Then that name becomes more famous because it has two stories attached, so that when someone forgets name that goes with a third story, they are more likely to attach that to the most famous name, and so on. Though it would be unwise to think with any certainty that it is pure myth, since it is quite possible that most of it may just be a fiction. Perhaps, or perhaps not, borrowing just a name or a couple of vernacular stories from popular myth. Though I have heard that some scholars say, that many of the contradictions in, and styles of the new testament, clearly indicate two figures, who can be divided leaving two logically consistent persons. One an old testament style prophet, preaching hard Judaism, and the other a later fictional addition delivering the liberal teachings. The one thing that you can say for certain, is that after all this time and with such doubtful evidence, then any one who thinks they can say anything at all with even half certainty, is deluded or dishonest.
S.
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Groan.
Random thought over lunch.... after making bread. πŸ€”
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
People I know, tell me that I have always been revolting.
Atheists, agnostics sleep better than Catholics, Baptists
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
When we go to sleep, we may never wake up. They may wake up in hell. LOL
The many beautiful stages of a Double Delight
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Beautiful. Is the dew natural or did you add it ?
Given the Machiavellian tendencies of governments do you think that they will miss the opportunity ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Given the incompetence of governments, do you think that they are capable of creating and managing a plan like that ?
The thing that gets me the most about religious people who keep saying Thank you Jesus, for all they...
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Jesus said that giving the message of god to none Jews, meaning inherited Judaism thought the traditional female line, was like giving the children's food to swine, (could have been dogs, memory fails a little.). It was st Paul and later converts who went against that and accepted gentiles. So you could say that all the followers of Jesus today would not be recognized by him, and are false converts.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a community in the uk of freethinkers that supported each other like a ...
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Not even a good Humanist group near me. Out in the sticks.
interesting little tidbit....thoughts?
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
I don't know where the meme came from, but it is not exactly a new idea, people have been drawing that parallel since at least the nineteenth century. The meme certainly makes it very striking though.
The sky has turned brown with an orange glow. The air stinks. I'm coughing inside the house. WTF?
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Stay safe, try not to breath the smoke if you can, I have read that wood smoke is at least twenty times more dangerous than cigar smoke.
HEY!! Got my shirt today! Hey hey!!
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
You can go out now.
“Say what you will about the ten commandments, you must always come back to the pleasant fact that...
Fernapple comments on Sep 12, 2020:
Unless you use the King James, where they added an extra one.
KGW-TV THE WORST AIR IN THE WORLD IS ON THE WEST COAST TODAY.
Fernapple comments on Sep 11, 2020:
Stay safe, I have read that wood smoke is at least twenty times more dangerous than cigar smoke. So try not to breath it, if you can.